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Basement and Attic Cleanouts in Rochester, New York

More than half of Rochester's housing predates 1940, and nearly all of it has a full basement. Here is what comes out, what it weighs, and what size container the job really takes.

By Ray Hargrove, RCH Bros Dumpster Rental· Updated ·11 min read
Basement and attic cleanouts in Rochester, New York — clearing a full cellar under a pre-1940 house

Most houses in this city sit on a full basement, and most of those basements have been filling up since before the Second World War. More than half of Rochester’s housing was built before 1940, and roughly nine houses in ten predate 1980. So when you finally prop open the door at the bottom of the stairs and start hauling, you are not clearing out a decade of storage. You are clearing out a century of it.

We have run roll-offs out of the west side since 2011, and the basement-and-attic job is the most common residential call we take inside the city line. This is what that job actually looks like here: what comes out of an old Rochester house, what the material weighs, what size container it takes, and what the law will not let you put in it. If you want to talk through a specific address, call (585) 514-5622.

Why a Rochester basement fills the way it does

Full basements are near-universal in Monroe County. That is not true in much of the country, and it changes the shape of the job. A house built on a slab has an attic and a garage. A house built here has an attic, a garage, and eight hundred square feet of dry-ish floor under the whole footprint that nobody has looked at properly since 1978.

The oldest stock sits on stone and rubble foundations. Houses built before about 1930 are commonly balloon framed. Inside the walls you will find knob-and-tube wiring, cast-iron drain-waste-vent stacks, and galvanized supply lines. None of that is exotic here. It is the default condition.

What actually comes out

On a typical pre-1940 city basement we load some combination of:

  • A decommissioned boiler or furnace, plus the old oil tank fittings and the cut sections of the octopus ductwork that fed the original gravity system.
  • Cast-iron soil pipe and radiators. A single standing radiator can run several hundred pounds, and there is usually more than one leaning in a corner.
  • Wood storm windows and screens, stacked six deep behind the stairs, most of them painted shut and none of them matching the current sash.
  • Shelving built out of full-dimension lumber, workbenches bolted to the joists, and a laundry sink on a cast-iron pedestal.
  • Plaster and lath from an earlier partial remodel, still bagged or still piled, because somebody started a project in 1994 and stopped.
  • Carpet, pad, and the tack strip from a finished rec room that flooded once and never dried right.
  • Paint, thinner, old fuel, garden chemicals and a coffee can of unidentified liquid on a shelf above the bench. That last category does not ride in our container. More on that below.

Plaster and lath is what decides your container

If there is one thing that separates a Rochester cleanout from the same job in a newer market, it is plaster. Drywall is light and it breaks into panels. Plaster on wood lath is dense, it is often three coats, and it comes down in chunks with nails and horsehair binder in it. It fills a container by weight long before it fills it by volume.

Volume versus weight

Every roll-off has two limits. One is the top rail. The other is what the truck and the road can legally carry. On a clean household cleanout of furniture, boxes and clothing, you will hit the rail first and the container will go out light. On anything with plaster, tile, brick or a stone-foundation repair in it, you hit the weight limit with the container half full.

The practical answer is not a bigger can. It is a smarter load. Put the heavy material in low and spread it across the floor of the container rather than piling it at the door end. Break the bulky light material down so it nests. If the job is genuinely heavy from the first hour — a full plaster gut, a chimney takedown, a rubble-foundation repair — the right call is a 10-yard container run twice, not a 30-yard you cannot legally haul. We would rather tell you that on the phone than at the curb.

The attic is the opposite problem

Where the basement is heavy, the attic is bulky. A Rochester attic is usually reached by a pull-down or a narrow walk-up stair off a back bedroom, and everything in it went up the same way it has to come down. Expect furniture that was disassembled to get through the opening, boxed paper, holiday storage, luggage, framed art, and mattresses that were carried up when the kids moved out.

Two attic notes worth knowing. First, the heat. A city attic under a dark roof in July is genuinely dangerous to work in past ten in the morning. Start at six, quit at eleven, take the afternoon off, and put a box fan in the gable end pointed out. Second, the ceiling below. In a balloon-framed house the attic floor is often just loose boards laid over the joists, and the ceiling underneath is plaster. Step wrong and you have added a plaster repair to the project.

If you find loose-fill insulation you do not recognize, or wrapped pipe insulation running through the attic or the basement, stop moving it and read the next section before you do anything else.

Asbestos: an exemption is not a pass

New York regulates asbestos through the Department of Labor, not the environmental agency. The rule is 12 NYCRR Part 56, known as Industrial Code Rule 56, and it requires an asbestos survey before demolition, renovation, remodeling or repair. There is a narrow carve-out for the owner of a one- or two-family dwelling who, in the rule’s words, “contracts for, but does not direct or control the work.” There are also survey exemptions for agricultural buildings, for structures certified structurally unsound, and for buildings whose original construction commenced after 1 January 1974.

Here is the part people get backwards. The Department of Labor states it plainly:

“Buildings qualifying for exemptions must still be assumed to contain asbestos and demolished as an asbestos project unless there is a survey that appropriately documents that there is no asbestos.”

An exemption from the survey is not an exemption from the rules. It is a presumption that the material is there, which costs more than testing would have. And in Rochester, the 1974 date does not help most houses. The pre-1974 stock in this city is full of 9×9 vinyl asbestos floor tile in basements and back halls, and asbestos pipe and boiler insulation on the old gravity systems.

Our policy is simple and it is not negotiable: we do not accept asbestos in our containers. Asbestos in New York moves under a separate NYSDEC Part 364 permit and has to be handled by a licensed asbestos contractor working under Part 56. Start at the New York State Department of Labor if you are not sure where your job lands.

Sizing: the 20-yard is the Rochester default

For a full basement and attic clear-out on a city house, the 20-yard is the container we drop most often. It takes a mixed household load without running out of room, and its footprint still fits a normal city driveway. The exceptions run in both directions.

ContainerRochester basement and attic useWatch out for
10 yardPlaster demolition, brick, rubble foundation spoil, concrete floor breakoutFills by weight at roughly half its volume
15 yardAttic only, or a basement in a small house, or one unit of a two-familyShort walls make hand-loading easier
20 yardA full basement and attic on a typical city houseThe default. Order this one unless something says otherwise
30 yardBasement, attic, garage and porch together, or a whole two-family turnoverNeeds a longer, straighter approach
40 yardWhole-house clear-out with furniture from every roomLight material only. Weight limits still apply

Full container sizes are listed on the site, and the sizing guide walks through the math room by room. If the house has been in one family for fifty years, size up. Nobody has ever finished one of these jobs and wished for a smaller can.

What cannot go in the container

New York does not run a single waste-ban list. It runs product-specific bans, each one in its own title of the Environmental Conservation Law, and several of them will show up in an old basement.

  • Electronics. Banned from the trash since 1 January 2015 under ECL Article 27, Title 26. That includes the CRT television in the corner and the tower under the workbench.
  • Rechargeable batteries. Illegal to throw in the trash under Title 18. Power tool packs, laptop cells, and as of a 2025 amendment, e-bike and e-scooter batteries.
  • Mercury thermostats. Disposal banned since 2005 under Title 29. If you pulled the round thermostat off the wall when the boiler came out, it goes to a collection program.
  • Waste tires. Land burial is prohibited under Title 19, and there are almost always four in the back of a Rochester garage.
  • Paint, solvent, fuel, pesticide. Household hazardous waste. Paint has its own route — New York’s paint stewardship program has run since May 2022 under ECL Article 27, Title 20.

The place all of that goes is the Monroe County ecopark, 10 Avion Drive, Rochester, NY 14624. It is open Wednesday 1:00 to 6:30 pm and Saturday 7:30 am to 1:00 pm, and it is for Monroe County residents only. The distinction that trips people up: an appointment is required for household hazardous waste, but electronics, appliances, scrap metal, propane tanks, fluorescent lights, rechargeable batteries, sharps and textiles are walk-in. Some items carry a fee and the site takes credit or debit only. Details are on the Monroe County site.

Plan the ecopark run before the container arrives, not after. Sorting hazardous material out of a half-loaded can is miserable work.

Getting the container to the house

City lots are narrow and the driveways that came with them are narrow too. We need roughly ten and a half feet of width to set a container down cleanly, about sixty feet of straight approach to run the truck in and tilt the box off, and better than twenty feet of clear overhead.

That last one matters more here than people expect. Rochester has a mature street canopy, and under those limbs runs the service drop to the house. We will not put a raised bed into a service drop or a limb, and if the only approach is under one, we will find another spot or come back with a different plan.

On the driveway itself we lay plywood under every wheel and under the rails, every placement, no exceptions. Monroe County sits on silt loams — Collamer and Niagara, with Honeoye as the signature series — and those soils hold water. In March and April, when frost is coming out of the ground, an asphalt driveway over that subgrade is at its softest of the year. The full story is in our piece on driveway protection.

A container sitting entirely on your own driveway is generally outside the City’s right-of-way permit requirement at City Code § 104-24. If any part of it touches the sidewalk, the tree lawn or the street, you need a written permit from the City Engineer — and under § 104-24(C) the obstruction has to be barricaded and lit after dark. In December, sunset here is before five o’clock.

Working the job in order

The people who finish these jobs in a weekend all work roughly the same way.

  1. Walk the whole basement and the whole attic first, with a light, before anything moves. Make three piles in your head: keep, donate, load.
  2. Pull the banned material out first and stage it in the garage. Electronics, batteries, thermostats, tires, paint, chemicals. Book the ecopark appointment for the hazardous items now.
  3. Clear the path. Get the stairs, the bulkhead and the walk to the driveway open and swept before the container lands. Every trip you make later uses that path.
  4. Load heavy and low first. Cast iron, plaster, tile, anything dense, spread flat across the floor of the container.
  5. Then bulky light material, broken down so it nests. Break the shelving. Fold the boxes. Take the legs off the table.
  6. Finish with the loose material that fills gaps. Do not load above the top rail. A load that sits proud of the rail cannot be tarped and cannot legally go down the road.

If the job is bigger than the weekend you have for it, we also do the loading. That is what our junk removal service is for.

If you are doing this in January

Rochester averages 102.0 inches of snow a year, the highest normal of any large American metro, and January alone brings 27.4 inches over about 17.6 snow days. That is the operational fact nobody outside the snow belt has to think about: snow in an open container is weight you pay to haul. A can sitting in a city driveway in January gets snowed on roughly every other day.

So tarp it. Every night, and any time you break for more than a few hours. Keep the tarp weighted at the corners, because the wind off Lake Ontario will take it otherwise. And shovel the approach before we come back for the pickup — the truck needs the same sixty feet in February that it needed in September.

Ready to schedule, or want to talk through what is down there first? Call (585) 514-5622. Tell us the age of the house, whether the basement is full or finished, and whether plaster is coming down. We will size it with you on the phone.

Questions this guide did not answer? Call (585) 514-5622. We would rather spend two minutes on the phone than have you order the wrong container.

Frequently Asked Questions

What size dumpster do I need for a Rochester basement and attic?

For a full basement and attic clear-out on a typical city house, the 20-yard is our default and the size we drop most often. It holds a mixed household load without running short, and its footprint still fits a normal city driveway. Size down to a 15-yard if you are doing the attic only or working in a small house. Size up to a 30-yard if the garage and porch are coming out in the same push, or if the house has been in one family for decades. The one case where you go smaller rather than bigger is heavy demolition. Plaster, brick and rubble hit the weight limit before they fill the box.

Why is plaster and lath so much heavier than drywall?

Plaster in an old Rochester house is usually three coats troweled over wood lath, and it is dense all the way through. Drywall is a gypsum core between two sheets of paper, and it breaks into flat panels that stack. Plaster comes down in chunks that carry nails, lath and horsehair binder with them. The practical result is that a container half full of plaster can already be at its legal hauling weight while it still looks empty from the driveway. Load it low and spread it across the floor of the can rather than piling it at one end, and expect to run a smaller container more than once.

Can I put old paint cans from the basement in the dumpster?

No. Paint, solvent, thinner, old fuel and garden chemicals are household hazardous waste and they do not ride in our containers. New York has run a paint stewardship program since May 2022 under ECL Article 27, Title 20, so leftover architectural paint has its own free drop-off route. Everything else goes to the Monroe County ecopark at 10 Avion Drive. Hazardous waste there needs an appointment, so book it before your container arrives. Pulling chemicals back out of a half-loaded can is a bad afternoon.

Where do I take the old TV and the power tool batteries?

The Monroe County ecopark at 10 Avion Drive takes both, and neither one needs an appointment. Electronics have been banned from New York trash since 1 January 2015 under ECL Article 27, Title 26, and rechargeable batteries are illegal to put in the trash under Title 18, which a 2025 amendment extended to e-bike and e-scooter batteries. The ecopark is open Wednesday afternoons and Saturday mornings and is for Monroe County residents only. Some items carry a fee, and the site takes credit or debit cards only.

There are 9x9 floor tiles in my basement. Can they go in the can?

Not until somebody qualified tells you what they are. Nine-inch vinyl floor tile in a pre-1974 Rochester basement is a well-known asbestos suspect, along with the wrapped insulation on old pipes and boilers. We do not accept asbestos in our containers. In New York it moves under a separate NYSDEC Part 364 permit and has to be handled by a contractor licensed under the Department of Labor's Industrial Code Rule 56. If the tile is intact and staying put, leave it. If it has to come up, get it identified first.

Do I need a permit to put the container in my driveway?

Generally no. A container placed entirely on your own driveway or private property is outside the City of Rochester's right-of-way obstruction permit requirement at City Code section 104-24. The moment any part of the placement touches the sidewalk, the tree lawn or the street, you need a written permit from the City Engineer, and the obstruction has to be barricaded and lit at night. Suburban towns run their own rules. Tell us where you want it and we will tell you what it takes.

Should I tarp the dumpster in a Rochester winter?

Yes, and it is not a small thing. Rochester averages 102 inches of snow a year, with about 27 inches in January alone across roughly 18 snow days. Snow and the meltwater it leaves behind are weight in your container, and weight is what you pay to haul. Tarp it every night and any time you break for more than a few hours, and weight the corners because the wind off Lake Ontario will find any loose edge. Also keep the approach shoveled. The truck needs the same clear run in February that it needed in September.

Helpful Local Resources

Useful official sources for permits, disposal rules and recycling in Rochester and Monroe County. We keep these handy because half the questions we get are really questions for one of these offices.

  • City of RochesterThe §104-24 right-of-way permit from the City Engineer, the Ch. 90 lead ordinance, the refuse code and fall leaf collection.
  • Monroe CountyThe ecopark at 10 Avion Drive, county recycling rules, Mill Seat Landfill and the childhood lead program.
  • NYSDECPart 360 and Part 364, the electronics and battery bans, waste tires and mercury thermostats.
  • NYS Department of LaborIndustrial Code Rule 56 — asbestos surveys, project tiers and licensed contractors.
  • NYS Department of HealthThe Lead Rental Registry under Public Health Law §1377 and childhood lead prevention.
  • NYS Department of StateThe Uniform Code — the Residential Code and Fire Code of New York State.
  • UDig NYFree utility locates before you dig, demolish or excavate — New York’s one-call center.
  • PaintCare New YorkFree drop-off for leftover paint across New York, funded by a fee already paid at the register.
  • US EPAThe Renovation, Repair and Painting rule for every pre-1978 house.
  • National Weather ServiceRochester climate normals, snowfall and the lake-effect forecast.

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